certainly a huge issue for many, many countries but especially for india as you know they have the pakistan was created to accommodate the muslims there though there are still muslims inside india and have very different kinds of status within the country. >> you program called wake up laughing, wise up loving. >> you can -- what is the name of it? it's a funny name. >> swamy somebody will do it. >> right. this is going to be a humorous program and i'm waiting to find out myself on what that's going to be. i don't know. i just have that wonderful title and name. i will be in the audience to find out. >> for people who are not part of the common wealth club and would like to dip their toes in the watter a little bit, there is a particular program or night you would suggest for a starter? >> susan, no. there isn't. it depends upon what your particular interest is and i would urge you to scan the whole array of programs that we are offering because the beauty of these is that they are done by the different interest groups within the common wealth club of which i am the chair and i have 16 sub